I think I have finally decompressed. The Municipality of Mt. Lebanon v Elaine Gillen and the Pennsylvania Office of Open Records oral argument was heard in Commonwealth Court on Monday, November 14.
I had never been in Commonwealth Court before. On a side note, I had never been in Common Pleas Court either. The courtroom which was used for the argument was the Supreme Court Room. It is spectacular.
We were number six or seven on the Court Calendarto go before a panel of three Commonwealth Court judges who came from Harrisburg and Philadelphia. No judge from Mt. Lebanon this time around! Before anyone asks, I do not know who the people were from Mt. Lebanon or recognized Mt. Lebanon School District's attorney for the School District case. They were last on the schedule and I left after we were finished.
I had to chuckle when I compared how Mt. Lebanon's commissioners run citizen comments vs. how the Commonwealth Court president handled the cases. Each side was permitted eight minutes for oral argument. Appellants were heard first and had to state if they wanted to reserve two minutes of their time for a rebuttal after the appellees' eight minutes. The Commonwealth Court President had a kitchen timer and would ignore the beeper if they had asked questions and/or would permit both sides to continue their arguments if they were in a middle of a thought. It was very civilized. No interruptions like our power hungry, ego-inflated commissioners handle citizen comments, unless you are Michalina, who is allowed to continue when the clock runs out.
I wish Cori Vipperman attended the argument. She would have crawled under the chair when the one senior judge interrupted MTL's counsel and said in so many words, "Please don't tell me that you think people felt threatened by someone who is against killing deer." The solicitor said that Judge O'Brien had already thrown that out in the lower court. Cori Vipperman email
I thought I would have seen Dave Franklin there, since he was willing to reach out to the Solicitor with the case. He encouraged the commissioners to appeal the Office of Open Records' decisions. Dave Franklin email See Dave? It isn't about intimidation or cyber bullying. Judge O'Brien ruled that the commissioners who were against it, were not in any danger. Their addresses were public information. Nobody "drove by their homes ...and perhaps worse." Whatever that means.
I don't know when a decision will be made. It could take several months. The next level would be to go before the State Supreme Court, IF the State Supreme Court would hear the case. Since Mt. Lebanon has endless amounts of money, the little person doesn't stand a chance.
I had never been in Commonwealth Court before. On a side note, I had never been in Common Pleas Court either. The courtroom which was used for the argument was the Supreme Court Room. It is spectacular.
We were number six or seven on the Court Calendarto go before a panel of three Commonwealth Court judges who came from Harrisburg and Philadelphia. No judge from Mt. Lebanon this time around! Before anyone asks, I do not know who the people were from Mt. Lebanon or recognized Mt. Lebanon School District's attorney for the School District case. They were last on the schedule and I left after we were finished.
I had to chuckle when I compared how Mt. Lebanon's commissioners run citizen comments vs. how the Commonwealth Court president handled the cases. Each side was permitted eight minutes for oral argument. Appellants were heard first and had to state if they wanted to reserve two minutes of their time for a rebuttal after the appellees' eight minutes. The Commonwealth Court President had a kitchen timer and would ignore the beeper if they had asked questions and/or would permit both sides to continue their arguments if they were in a middle of a thought. It was very civilized. No interruptions like our power hungry, ego-inflated commissioners handle citizen comments, unless you are Michalina, who is allowed to continue when the clock runs out.
I wish Cori Vipperman attended the argument. She would have crawled under the chair when the one senior judge interrupted MTL's counsel and said in so many words, "Please don't tell me that you think people felt threatened by someone who is against killing deer." The solicitor said that Judge O'Brien had already thrown that out in the lower court. Cori Vipperman email
I thought I would have seen Dave Franklin there, since he was willing to reach out to the Solicitor with the case. He encouraged the commissioners to appeal the Office of Open Records' decisions. Dave Franklin email See Dave? It isn't about intimidation or cyber bullying. Judge O'Brien ruled that the commissioners who were against it, were not in any danger. Their addresses were public information. Nobody "drove by their homes ...and perhaps worse." Whatever that means.
I don't know when a decision will be made. It could take several months. The next level would be to go before the State Supreme Court, IF the State Supreme Court would hear the case. Since Mt. Lebanon has endless amounts of money, the little person doesn't stand a chance.