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Seriously, why does it have to be so difficult? UPDATED

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My first email went out this morning at 10:03 AM. It wasn't until 7:26 PM tonight, did I get a definitive answer as to when the baiting started.


From:egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
To:kmcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
Cc:commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; repmiller <repmiller@pahouse.net>; egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Subject:Re: Baiting
Date:Tue, Feb 7, 2017 8:23 pm

Keith,

Susan Morgans told the PG in Mt. Lebanon deer reduction enters firearm phase that baiting will be for two weeks, not three and that White Buffalo had not come to town as of February 2. 

Do you see why I am confused?

Elaine


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc: Commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; Rep. Dan Miller <repmiller@pahouse.net>
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: Baiting

Good evening Elaine,

I believe you are referencing the proposal submitted by White Buffalo that is a part of the Agreement and referenced as Appendix A, that indicates that "Bait should be placed out 3 weeks in advance of removal activities."

The decision as to when removal activities begin will be determined by the contractor in coordination with the Police Department and the Game Commission.

 Baiting began on January 30th.


From:
Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To:egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc:Commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; Rep. Dan Miller <repmiller@pahouse.net>
Subject:Re: Baiting
Date:Tue, Feb 7, 2017 7:29 pm

Good evening Elaine,

The contract is a time and materials contract. At the conclusion of the program the municipality will receive an itemized invoice for the actual time spent on each activity. 

Keith

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 6:58 PM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:
Keith,

Tony DeNicola is charging us for 22 days of baiting, per the contract posted on the MTL website.  http://www.mtlebanon.org/DocumentCenter/View/14736
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-----Original Message-----
From: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
To: kmcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
Cc: commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; repmiller <repmiller@pahouse.net>
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: Baiting

The contract states that there are to be three weeks of baiting. What is the exact date of when the baiting began?
Thanks, Keith.

Elaine


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc: Commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: Baiting

Good evening Elaine,

I am trying to understand why the exact date is relevant. The permit allows baiting to begin January 29th and deer removal to begin February 1st. 

Keith

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 6:20 PM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:
Why do you ask, Keith? 
Elaine


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: Baiting

Good evening Elaine,

What is the relevance of the exact date?

Keith

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:44 PM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks, Keith. Would you mind finding out the exact date?
Elaine


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To: egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 11:55 am
Subject: Re: Baiting

Good morning Elaine,
Baiting has started. It started sometime after January 29th. I do not have an exact date.
Keith

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:03 AM, egillen476@aol.com <egillen476@aol.com> wrote:
Hi Keith,

Has the baiting started yet? 

If so, when did it start?

If not, any idea when it will start?

Thanks.

Elaine 
--
Keith McGill, AICP
Municipal Manager
412-343-3684
kmcgill@mtlebanon.org 

Update February 8, 2017 11:35 AM Keith cleared up the confusion. I see the 2017 euphemism for killing is now "removal activities." I have also gone from "Elaine" to "Ms. Gillen."

From:Keith Mcgill <kmcgill@mtlebanon.org>
To:egillen476 <egillen476@aol.com>
Cc:Commission <commission@mtlebanon.org>; Rep. Dan Miller <repmiller@pahouse.net>
Subject:Re: Baiting
Date:Wed, Feb 8, 2017 11:25 am

Good morning Ms. Gillen,
The information provided by Ms. Morgans was based on a conversation that she and I had in which she indicated that Mr. Hayes had called requesting information related to this year's sharpshooting program. During that conversation I provided the dates from the Game Commission permit which allow baiting to begin January 29, 2017 and deer removal to begin February 1, 2017.
I further indicated that the contractor needs at least 2-3 weeks for baiting and that none of the sharpshooters from White Buffalo we in town as of February 2nd to begin removal activities. The except below is what appears in the article.

A Game Commission special permit authorizes that the second year of a rifle sharpshooting phase could have begun Wednesday, but Ms. Morgans said White Buffalo’s professional sharpshooters were not yet in town. Following two weeks of site baiting, the shooters will work from stationary elevated positions vetted by Mt. Lebanon police on private property and several public spaces — McNeilly Park, Robb Hollow Park and the adjacent Public Works yard, the conservation district on Connor Road and the municipal golf course.
Keith 

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